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  • #16
    Galvanizing is a process that actually coats the steel with metallic zinc. It requires tanks of cleaner and acid to prepare the metal, and a tank of molten zinc into which the components are immersed. I reckon it is unlikely that Greeves had such facilities, and I've never seen any reference to galvanizing. Of course they could have farmed it out, but what would have been the point?

    None of their advertising or brochures mention zinc plating or galvanizing - and you can be sure that they would have advertised the fact had they been doing it.

    As I mentioned above, the steel frames and other components of Greeves bikes were prepared by bonderizing, some types of which provides a zinc phosphate coating.

    Wilkipedia says:

    "Parkerizing, bonderizing, phosphating, or phosphatizing is a method of protecting a steel surface from corrosion and increasing its resistance to wear through the application of an electrochemical phosphate conversion coating.
    The process involves submerging the metal part into a phosphoric acid solution whose key ingredient is often zinc or manganese, with varying additional amounts of nitrates, chlorates, and copper.

    In one of the many processes that have been developed, the solution is heated to a temperature of 88–99 °C (190–210 °F) for a period ranging between 5 and 45 minutes".
    Last edited by Colin Sparrow; 06/12/2014, 08:22 AM.
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    • #17
      At the end of the day does it matter, frankly I have never seen a stand in Galvanised finish, & as Colin says its unlikely that Greeves would have gone to the added expense, also as the stand gets a liberal coating of oil from leaky gearboxes/primary drives, there is no point in giving it extra rust proofing. Just paint it with primer then a top coat of 'Moorland Blue' or what ever colour you are painting the bike.

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      • #18
        Galvanised centre stand

        Hi All, Rob sent me this factory drawing, as to doing the galvanising in house, I think that it would have been done by specialists as also the satin chrome petrol tanks. Cheers Pete from the Antipodes
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        • #19
          Zinc or not?

          I agree with John, it will only matter if you are trying to restore a bike to EXACT build specs. But Greeves build specs were variable!!

          I've got factory pictures of roadsters showing shiny stands and cradle plates. Presumably zinc. But whether they actually built production bikes with plated stands isn't clear. Engine plates yes, but not galvanised, they were almost certainly dull zinc plated.

          Keith

          Recreating a Greeves can be an imprecise business.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Keith Bolas View Post

            Recreating a Greeves can be an imprecise business.
            As can matching the paint!!!

            AndyB

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            • #21
              Originally posted by AndyB View Post
              As can matching the paint!!!

              AndyB
              Yep!!

              Keith

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              • #22
                Just to chuck my tuppence worth into the pot, my Ranger's engine cradle is definitely galvanized, not zinc plated and I am certain its original as the bike has never been taken apart from new. I've seen trials Greeves bike with the same cradle, also galvanized.

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                • #23
                  Cadmium.....?

                  This TD/S engine plate was originally cadmium plated according to this drawing......

                  Brian.
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                  • #24
                    Phosphating Tanks.

                    I found this old pic of the phosphating tanks at the factory and thought I may as well post it here, for info.

                    Sorry about the quality everyone, it was the best I could do with it......

                    Brian.
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                    Last edited by Brian Thompson; 14/12/2014, 02:24 PM. Reason: Pic attached.

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