I have recently been talking to Lewis at Villiers Services about a planned 12volt CDI & lighting system for Villiers 2,3 & 4T twins. Apparently these are being developed by Electrex World http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/ & are based on their current system for the A type singles. From what Lewis tells me the system will not require a battery, but frankly I cant see how this would work on a road bike as you need a battery for a stable voltage for the lights, horn & indicators (if fitted). The Electrex World systems are not cheap at around £240. As ignition problems seem to be a source of problems to many Villiers twin owners, & coupled with the fact that the 6 volt system as made by Villiers is antiquated in terms of voltage control, battery charging & light output there is no doubt that a more modern system would be of interest to some owners, but only if it is reliable & fault free. Has anyone fitted an Electrex World ignition system to their trials or scrambler? If so is it worth the money?
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Electronic Ignition
I have fitted Electrex world ignition systems to 2 BSAs. They both work well and cost me about £150 each. The downside is that the spark is very difficult to see like most electronic systems.
If your bike won't start in a sunny paddock you won't know if the spark has gone or is just hiding.
Druid
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Electrex systems
Originally posted by druid View PostI have fitted Electrex world ignition systems to 2 BSAs. They both work well and cost me about £150 each. The downside is that the spark is very difficult to see like most electronic systems.
If your bike won't start in a sunny paddock you won't know if the spark has gone or is just hiding.
Druid
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Originally posted by John Wakefield View PostI have recently been talking to Lewis at Villiers Services about a planned 12volt CDI & lighting system for Villiers 2,3 & 4T twins. Apparently these are being developed by Electrex World http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/ & are based on their current system for the A type singles. From what Lewis tells me the system will not require a battery, but frankly I cant see how this would work on a road bike as you need a battery for a stable voltage for the lights, horn & indicators (if fitted). I put a phone call in this afternoon to Electrex World but the only guy there who could talk technical about their systems was out in the car park working on a customers bike!!! The woman who answered the phone asked me to phone back tommorrow & did not offer to call me back when the guy became free. So much for customer care.
Looking at various other biker forums it appears there may be problems with the reliabillity Electrex World systems, which at a cost of around £250 each are not cheap. As ignition problems seem to be a source of problems to many Villiers twin owners, & coupled with the fact that the 6 volt system as made by Villiers is antiquated in terms of voltage control, battery charging & light output there is no doubt that a more modern system would be of interest to some owners, but only if it is reliable & fault free. Has anyone fitted an Electrex World ignition system to their trials or scrambler? If so is it worth the money?
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Originally posted by John Wakefield View PostI have recently been talking to Lewis at Villiers Services about a planned 12volt CDI & lighting system for Villiers 2,3 & 4T twins. Apparently these are being developed by Electrex World http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/ & are based on their current system for the A type singles. From what Lewis tells me the system will not require a battery, but frankly I cant see how this would work on a road bike as you need a battery for a stable voltage for the lights, horn & indicators (if fitted). I put a phone call in this afternoon to Electrex World but the only guy there who could talk technical about their systems was out in the car park working on a customers bike!!! The woman who answered the phone asked me to phone back tommorrow & did not offer to call me back when the guy became free. So much for customer care.
Looking at various other biker forums it appears there may be problems with the reliabillity Electrex World systems, which at a cost of around £250 each are not cheap. As ignition problems seem to be a source of problems to many Villiers twin owners, & coupled with the fact that the 6 volt system as made by Villiers is antiquated in terms of voltage control, battery charging & light output there is no doubt that a more modern system would be of interest to some owners, but only if it is reliable & fault free. Has anyone fitted an Electrex World ignition system to their trials or scrambler? If so is it worth the money?
I have the Electrex on my 250 Griffon and MX4 Challenger with no issues so far. However one did give up the ghost on a fellows Motocross Special at an event a few months back. I don't know all the details why the unit failed.
I would be very interested in installing one on my 2T Sports twin if they do work out well.
Kenny
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2T coil ignition
Originally posted by Stuart Baskill View PostI toyed with the idea of going coil ignition with a couple of Royal Enfield ignition coils as the 2T will charge a battery ok.The only problem I could think of would be running with the lights on.Having an ampmeter fitted would tell you if it was charging ok.I always like coil ignition as you have a fat spark even with a little prod on the kickstart.
A workable coil ignition system is feasable on the 2,3 & 4T as per this conversion by Bill Drummond, but it remains 6 volt. http://www.users.waitrose.com/~colinatkinson/mq26.htm
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I have Electrex fitted on my racing Yamaha TZ 250 twin and I have had no problems with it. I have just fitted one to my Anglian and on it's first trial, the Perce Simon last Saturday, it was a first kick starter. It is difficult to see the spark though.
GRA member Pete Smith has fitted the lighting version to his Scottish so it would be interesting to see how he has got on with it. I will have a word with him at the committee meeting this Saturday.
Rob
PS - That explains why Druid only enters the first couple of races of each meeting!
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Another source
A poster on Real Classics forum says he has had a 12 volt ignition/charging system fitted to his 2T engined bike supplied by Rex Caunt Racing http://www.rexcauntracing.com/
They dont seem to list one for the Villiers 2T on their web site but can presumably make up as a special. Like Electrex their prices are not cheap
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