hi iam michael from northern ireland, i have just bought a greeves scottish trials bike, could anyone date it for me the frame no is 8771/25sa but this number is coming up as a hawkstone scrambler? thank you
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Its actually a 1958 25SA Hawkstone Scrambler. Very few made (only 9 known survivors) fitted with a Villiers 2T twin. Not very successful model. What condition is yours, basket case, unrestored project of fully restored? Can you post some pics? It should look something like the one in attached picsLast edited by John Wakefield; 06/04/2022, 05:41 PM.
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Thanks. Its now has a 9E (197cc) engine and trials footrests and silencer, so effectively made into a 20TA Scottish. Frames are virtually identical & back in the day many riders used the same bike for trials & scrambles, just changed a few components. ie footrests, exhaust, sprocket, tyres etc.
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Around £750 to £1000. Frankly it would probably be best to restore it as a trails bike it now is, the 25SA scrambler was not a successful bike and if you put it back to Hawkstone spec it would cost more that the bike would be worth at the end of it. And a scrambler is of little use as you cant realy ride it on the road, unlike a trials bike. Does the bike have any paper work or road registered, that may help the price.
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Originally posted by oldbiker View PostHi its a barn find honesty lol
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Yes 2T engines are fairly available but to fully rebuild one (and most on eBay etc need rebuilding) it will cost over £1000 to rebuild plus the cost of buying in the first place, maybe another £250 or £300. You would also need a new exhaust system with silencer suitable for a twin, suitably modified it could be made road legal. As Stuart says the 25SA is a rare bike and I know he has a personal passion for them, but if you just want a bike to ride for the smallest out lay and at some point sell it I think you would be better to restore it as it is. Maybe not a full show condition restoration but a sympathetic one keeping the patina but with good mechanical units. The bike was obviously modified many years ago as many were to make the best use of an noncompetitive scramble bike, so that is part of its history.Last edited by John Wakefield; 06/04/2022, 11:02 PM.
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