1960 Hawkstone 350 RCA

[John-Boy]

H&H Auctions has, what they describe as a 1960 Hawkstone with a 350 twin RCA/Anzani engine.

Although a few DoT scramblers were sold with this engine I don't recall them fitted to Greeves except for some early road bikes.

The bike in question is fairly scruffy but the estimated value is £8000 - £9000.

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auctions/16-10-2013-ImperialWarMuseumDuxford-1353/1960GreevesHawkstone-36542.aspx

[johnrunnacles]

It must be the one that didn't sell in the July Cheffins Cambridge sale, John.
I wonder why?

[Brian Catt]

Probably won't sell here either!

[Colin Sparrow]

The RCA engine was never officially fitted to any Greeves. Some of the early road bikes had British Anzani twins, but they have nothing to do with the RCA.

The RCA was a 350cc two-stroke twin developed to be sold as a proprietary engine. It was tested in a Greeves Fleetwing chassis, but only because one was available to the maker, there was no Greeves factory involvement.

The RCA Hawkstone is a special, but at least it is a contemporary one.

[trialrider17]

1960 Hawkstone 350RCA

Photos of this very bike at Brill in 1959.After speaking to the owner these photos are of an early framed bike but same engine. The frame was change in 60/61.

[John Wakefield]

The RCA engine was never officially fitted to any Greeves. Some of the early road bikes had British Anzani twins, but they have nothing to do with the RCA.

The RCA was a 350cc two-stroke twin developed to be sold as a proprietary engine. It was tested in a Greeves Fleetwing chassis, but only because one was available to the maker, there was no Greeves factory involvement.

The RCA Hawkstone is a special, but at least it is a contemporary one.

So maybe not worth the £8k to £9k dreamed up by the auctioneers & hence why it did not sell at Cheffins sale

[johnrunnacles]

I know where there is a production RCA-engined scrambler .................... but it is a DOT!

[John Wakefield]

Saw the RCA Hawkstone at H&H viewing at Duxford today, looks like as in the pic 'oily rag' used condition. The auction is tommorrow its on line if you want to watch log onto http://www.classic-auctions.com/home.../bid-live.aspx

[John Wakefield]

Was 'knocked down' for £6200 did not meet reserve of £8000, bid submitted to sellor. There is 12% commission on bid plus VAT on that.

[Colin Sparrow]

Beats me why anyone would bid that much for it.

[John Wakefield]

Colin
It probably reflects on the type of buyer one gets at these 'top class' auctions. The prices that were paid for some barn find Rolls Royce wrecks was mind bogling. Who would pay £4.5k for this http://www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auctio...34/lot-3029943

[Colin Sparrow]

What, people who haven't got a clue what they're looking at, you mean?

[John Wakefield]

RCA Hawkstone not sold at H&H

Just looked on H&H web site, the RCA Greeves was NOT SOLD. so owner did not accept the bid of £6200. Madness, as its been in two auctions & still has not sold, so where does he go from here? Its clearly not worth £8 to £9k
Full results of motorcycles here http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auct...-1353.aspx?p=1

[Brian Catt]

Very large number of "Not Sold" bikes in that auction. Presumably because their reserve prices were to high for the current market.......or just greed!

[dave higgins]

I work for a frazer nash/lagonda vintage racing specialist, & the owner tells me that since the start of the recession, his business has tripled in size.
This being mainly due to his customers, as well as being well heeled, are enthusiasts, yet now see these old cars as a better investment, than the banks.
They do seem to have the best of both worlds, because as well as the ever increasing prices of these cars, they actually race them on the uk`s racing circuits in a very serious vintage race series.