1963 Greeves Starmaker - Is this the rarest Greeves Scrambles Bike

[Kim275]

http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/CLASSIC-MOTOCROSS-IRON-1963-GREEVES-STARMAKER--3972.aspx

A US friend of mine sent this fascinating article.................not sure the bickers facts are right? - but interesting all the same.......twin carb's and clearly potentially valuable - although US$30,000 is pushing it....That's nearly as much as a CCM or Cheyney BSA

Cheers Kim

[riflegreen]

Kim ,

Won't comment on the Bickers reason for changing bikes mid season but the Villiers/Greeves tie up did not end until after the Anglian trials bikes in 1968 .

The Starmaker was a nasty engine to make run with the two Amals , was much better with one .

Chris

[scott151]

Hi Kim/Chris

I think the price is abit optimistic

The article says none are left in the uk? Whats that bike Steve Salmon rides then?

I saw an ME down kempton park autojumble about 7 years ago, a guy was wheeling out of a van on a board, it looked very original, another guy said how much? The seller said £800, the buyer said il have it. It all hapened as quick as that. I wonder where that went

As to rare greeves i believe only 32 Short Stroke MX4 Chalengers were built, thats what we were told when i bought mine and phoned the club to check where it came from.

Scott

[Stuart Baskill]

Hi Kim/Chris

I think the price is abit optimistic

The article says none are left in the uk? Whats that bike Steve Salmon rides then?

I saw an ME down kempton park autojumble about 7 years ago, a guy was wheeling out of a van on a board, it looked very original, another guy said how much? The seller said £800, the buyer said il have it. It all hapened as quick as that. I wonder where that went

As to rare greeves i believe only 32 Short Stroke MX4 Chalengers were built, thats what we were told when i bought mine and phoned the club to check where it came from.

Scott

I think that they only made about 32 25SA scramblers

[Colin Sparrow]

What a load of cobblers! Rare maybe, but not terribly desirable. Worth about the same as an MCS/MDS in similar condition I would have thought.

[Stuart Baskill]

What a load of cobblers! Rare maybe, but not terribly desirable. Worth about the same as an MCS/MDS in similar condition I would have thought.

Which particular bit is a load of cobblers?

[Brian Catt]

I remember helping Joe Johnson on his works Cotton Starmaker when the support bracket broke that held the 2 carbs up. He came to our marshal post with the motor on almost full chat. We got the lead off and tied the carbs up with a bit of baling twine to get him back to the pits. Does anyone know how the progressive opening actually worked?

[Colin Sparrow]

Which particular bit is a load of cobblers?

The Bickers info and talking up the value.

[Bearingman]

Kim ,

Won't comment on the Bickers reason for changing bikes mid season but the Villiers/Greeves tie up did not end until after the Anglian trials bikes in 1968 .

The Starmaker was a nasty engine to make run with the two Amals , was much better with one .

Chris

Hi Chris,

I've never seen a photo with Bickers on an ME. Can anyone post one if they have it?

Kenny