As there have been a few questions asked about how to go about re registering bikes etc with DVLA that are bought without a V5 or have no, or few documents. Owners may find the following info helpfull
1) If the bike has a registration number check it with the DVLA to see if its registered with them & has a V5 / V5c. This can be done on line at https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/
If the number does not come up on DVLA web site it is worth contacting them as when the DVLA converted all the live vehicles from the old manual system as they were taxed – that was done progressively by age [newest first] from 1975 to 3/78, a V5 document would have then been issued. In the 1980s they had a policy of voiding records of vehicles that hadn’t been taxed for 5 years but they stopped doing that after a few years and the result is the collection of vehicles on the web site [all were live or had ‘activity’ reported on or after 12/83]. So I if a vehicle was only taxed with DVLA for a short while it could be one of the voided marks. They still kept a skeleton record of voids on their internal database [but not the public site] so should be able to resurrect it from the V5.
If it comes up then it has a V5 so all you need to do is send off for a new one using form V62 Application Form for a Vehicle Registration Certificate V5C
there is a charge (currently £25) If the vehicle does not come up on the DVLA Vehicle Enquiry it is still worth phoning the DVLA to check as it my still be registered with them. The number may also be on another vehicle & therefore not available.
2) If there is no V5, but you have an old 'buff or green' logbook, old tax disc or MoT certificate you can claim the number back via the V765 'Application to register a vehicle under it original number'
In theory you can do this yourself direct at a DVLA but you will need authentification by a approved vehicle owners club or other approved authenticator (a booklet is available from DVLA listing these) The GRA is authorised to do this (contact 'Druid') or you may wish to use another independent authenticator. There will be a charge for this service.
AS FROM JUNE 2015 AN OLD TAX DISC, MoT CERT., OR ANY OTHER DOCUMENT THAT DOES NOT SHOW FRAME (VIN No) WILL NO LONGER BE ACCEPTABLE TO DVLA - see a later post regarding this
3) If you have no documents (as above) to prove registration number, you will probably have to settle for an 'age related' mark. Procedure is similar as for (2) above. You will need a dating certificate from a club or other approved source. Again you can do it yourself with the DVLA, you may have to submit the bike for inspection.
It may be possible to obtain an authenticated copy of the original registration from a records office or archives dept. at the local Council that issued the original registration. This is acceptable to the DVLA as proof of registration number but only if it shows the frame (VIN) number
Not all council records survive though, ie all London ones were destroyed. A book on the subject 'How to trace the History of your Car' by Philip Riden ISBN 1 898937 25 7 & published by Merton Priory Press 67 Merthyr Road, Whitchurch CF4 1DD covers this subject in detail together with a list of Records/Archive offices & the series of registration numbers they hold.
Hope this helps
1) If the bike has a registration number check it with the DVLA to see if its registered with them & has a V5 / V5c. This can be done on line at https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/
If the number does not come up on DVLA web site it is worth contacting them as when the DVLA converted all the live vehicles from the old manual system as they were taxed – that was done progressively by age [newest first] from 1975 to 3/78, a V5 document would have then been issued. In the 1980s they had a policy of voiding records of vehicles that hadn’t been taxed for 5 years but they stopped doing that after a few years and the result is the collection of vehicles on the web site [all were live or had ‘activity’ reported on or after 12/83]. So I if a vehicle was only taxed with DVLA for a short while it could be one of the voided marks. They still kept a skeleton record of voids on their internal database [but not the public site] so should be able to resurrect it from the V5.
If it comes up then it has a V5 so all you need to do is send off for a new one using form V62 Application Form for a Vehicle Registration Certificate V5C
there is a charge (currently £25) If the vehicle does not come up on the DVLA Vehicle Enquiry it is still worth phoning the DVLA to check as it my still be registered with them. The number may also be on another vehicle & therefore not available.
2) If there is no V5, but you have an old 'buff or green' logbook, old tax disc or MoT certificate you can claim the number back via the V765 'Application to register a vehicle under it original number'
In theory you can do this yourself direct at a DVLA but you will need authentification by a approved vehicle owners club or other approved authenticator (a booklet is available from DVLA listing these) The GRA is authorised to do this (contact 'Druid') or you may wish to use another independent authenticator. There will be a charge for this service.
AS FROM JUNE 2015 AN OLD TAX DISC, MoT CERT., OR ANY OTHER DOCUMENT THAT DOES NOT SHOW FRAME (VIN No) WILL NO LONGER BE ACCEPTABLE TO DVLA - see a later post regarding this
3) If you have no documents (as above) to prove registration number, you will probably have to settle for an 'age related' mark. Procedure is similar as for (2) above. You will need a dating certificate from a club or other approved source. Again you can do it yourself with the DVLA, you may have to submit the bike for inspection.
It may be possible to obtain an authenticated copy of the original registration from a records office or archives dept. at the local Council that issued the original registration. This is acceptable to the DVLA as proof of registration number but only if it shows the frame (VIN) number
Not all council records survive though, ie all London ones were destroyed. A book on the subject 'How to trace the History of your Car' by Philip Riden ISBN 1 898937 25 7 & published by Merton Priory Press 67 Merthyr Road, Whitchurch CF4 1DD covers this subject in detail together with a list of Records/Archive offices & the series of registration numbers they hold.
Hope this helps
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