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**John Wakefield** · 05/07/2023, 09:46 AM

These are the Greeves:
24RDS Silverstone (24RDS101 I think) https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...s-silverstone/
32DC Sports Twin (later than 1959?) https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...c-sports-twin/
24DF Police VJJ980G 24DF117 https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...c-24df-police/
24DF Police VJJ982G 24DF119 https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...c-24df-police/
25DD Sports twin WMN250 https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...0-sports-twin/ Actually a 24DC124 frame with 2T engine and Essex bits. UK reg is JSK868 which has a V5c
25DC Sports Twin https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...c-sports-twin/
25DCE East Coaster BRK68D (25DC464B) https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...50cc-25dc-mk2/
24DC Sports Twin reg 534CBW https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...es-250cc-24dc/ has 2T engine
20DC Sports Single MDX69D (20DC397) https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...es-197cc-20dc/

Presumably more details including frame numbers will be added later. I have added those I know.

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**Dogsbody** · 05/07/2023, 09:56 AM

Thanks John. What do you think of the estimates?

**John Wakefield** · 05/07/2023, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Dogsbody View Post

Thanks John. What do you think of the estimates?

Generally on the high side, cant see those police bikes making 4k The East Coaster is low at 3.2K for a fully restored one like wise the 20DC at 1.8K Think some of the bikes are not all numbers correct ie the Essex which has a 24DC frame number! I have asked auctioneers for frame numbers to check them out.
With regards the Silverstone it might make 5k on a good day, I think this is 24RDS101 which according to Racer Database was on loan to the ARE Collection from owner Tony Wall. So dont know if its still owned by Tony Wall or was bought by Tony East.

**IanCordes** · 05/07/2023, 01:56 PM

Do the Police bikes have electric start?

**John Wakefield** · 05/07/2023, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by IanCordes View Post

Do the Police bikes have electric start?

Yes Siba Dynastart 12 volt

**IanCordes** · 05/07/2023, 06:13 PM

Just the job! I want one!

**John Wakefield** · 05/07/2023, 06:31 PM

Both bikes were previously owned by a friend of mine former GRA member Roger Neal of Cambridge, although he started restoration he never got anywhere near completing them, when he moved home some years ago he sold them (along with some other Greeves parts) to autojumbler Peter Rosenthal who in turn sold them to Tony East who restored them. If you are going to buy one VJJ982G is possibly the one to go for as it has a V5c, although Roger had the old RF60 logbook for VJJ980G he never got round to getting it onto the DVLA computor. But assuming the RF60 is still with the bike it can be done through the club. I am not sure if Tony actually got the bikes fully up and running or if the Dynastarts are still fully operational . These are ex City of London machines and they were known to have disabled the starting function. Originally these had electro mechanical AVC (Automatioc Voltage Control) units for charging and a solenoid for starting, but I think solid state devices are now available, Club members John Pattinson and Bill Drummond may be able to advise.

**John Wakefield** · 05/07/2023, 07:44 PM

One bike that appears to be missing from the auction is the original OBG Special 901JOO that was acquired by Tony East in November 2007

UPDATE: Its now been included https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...ne-no-085ewn6/
Registration no. 901 JOO
Frame no. 24 DDS101
Engine no. 085EWN6

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**IanCordes** · 05/07/2023, 10:17 PM

Thanks John, but I don't have room for any more. I am trying to thin my collection. I sold a Triumph a couple of weeks back, with others to follow!

**KevinLS** · 08/07/2023, 11:26 AM

The RDS looks more like an RES judging by the footrest hangers and seat.

**John Wakefield** · 08/07/2023, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by KevinLS View Post

The RDS looks more like an RES judging by the footrest hangers and seat.

According to Tony's daughter its the ex Tony Wall bike 24RDS101 which was on loan to ARE Museum but he later bought.

**John Wakefield** · 24/07/2023, 07:12 PM

Update on 24DC Sports Twin reg 534CBW https://www.bonhams.com/auction/2818...es-250cc-24dc/ with 2T engine. Something not right here, the frame number on the V5c for this bike is 61/1734 which make it a 24TDS, as its advertised as a 24DC then I suspect frame number is actually 61/2734 if so its going to take a lot of persuasion getting DVLA to correct it. The 2T engine fitted (in place of the original 32A) is 237D1620 which was originally fitted to 25DC 61/3083 so I wonder whats happened to that,? its not on Survivors List. So this looks like one bike to steer clear of. Dear old Tony East was known to rebuild bikes that were not all numbers correct. Be interesting to see what the frame numbers are for the 25DC Sports Twin and the 20DC neither appear to have registration numbers.

**Dogsbody** · 27/07/2023, 10:16 PM

What’s a DDS prototype? Genuine?

Bonhams Cars : The Anthony R. East Classic Motorcycle Collection; Formerly the property of O B ('Bert') Greeves, MBE, 1963 Greeves 246cc 24DDS Sports Single Prototype Frame no. 24DDS101 Engine no. 085E WN6

https://www.bonhams.com/auction/28185/preview-lot/5733276/1963-greeves-dds-sport-prototype-frame-no-24-dds101-engine-no-085ewn6/

• The sole 24DDS prototype made • Kept by Bert Greeves until 1993 • Known ownership history • Restored on the 2000s • Acquired by Tony East in 2007 Greeves' unorthodox trademarks of a cast beam 'down-tube' and rubber-in-torsion leading-link fork proved adaptable to almost all forms of motorcycle from humble commuter to clubman's road-racer, but it was the firm's off-road products which really put it on the map, generating valuable publicity that helped sell the roadsters. Offered here is a Greeves Sports Single variant that never made it into production: the 24DDS. Intended as a 100mph 250cc roadster, and built in the competitions department, the 24DDS was powered by a Villiers 36A-based engine fitted with Greeves' own Challenger competition top-end, also used in its scrambles models and the Silverstone road-racer. The frame used the Silverstone main beam and the steering angle was improved by a straight top-tube, while competition-type strengthening gussets were fitted to the leading-link front suspension. Unfortunately, the model was judged too expensive to be a success, and production never got beyond this solitary prototype. First registered to Greeves' parent company Invacar Ltd on 5th April 1963, this prototype is the only example made and was later registered to 'O B Greeves MBE' (see the original old-style buff logbook and copy old V5 on file). It is believed that Bert's nephew had an accident on the machine which damaged the front wheel, and it was then repaired and laid up until Bert's death in 1993, aged 87. At this point the 24DDS was inherited by Greeves authority Andrew King, who kept the machine in storage until it was purchased in 2002 by Graham Mitchell. Graham restored the Greeves and then sold it on to the immediately preceding owner, David Pink. Tony East acquired the ex-Bert Greeves 24DDS at a UK auction in November 2007. In 2010 the machine was featured in an article in The Classic MotorCycle by Richard Rosenthal (January edition). A partial copy of the article is on file and this unique piece of Greeves' history also comes with a copy of the works record; five MoTs (most recent expired 2011); and old/current V5C Registration Certificates. A framed display board of the aforementioned logbook copies, ownership history and specifications is included in the sale.

**John Wakefield** · 27/07/2023, 10:38 PM

Its the original OBG Special frame number 24DDS101. Its the genuine one, I wrote an article in LL 123 June 2005 about it when owned by Dave Pink

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