ISDT sidcar outfit

[John Wakefield]

This bike with frame number 24IN200 has turned up on Facebook,in the Netherlands with a Mr Layn, it been suggested it may be an Alec Wright Enduro bike. Can anyone identify it. engine number is GPG1/185

[greeves]

Hello John, think you'll find the fame number is 21 in200 has in original Facebook post

[John Wakefield]

Hello John, think you'll find the fame number is 21 in200 has in original Facebook post

No if you look closely you can see its a 4, Greeves never used a 21 designation, the 24 refers to engine size ie 246cc single. 20 197cc 25 249cc twin etc

[anglian man]

I believe this is a fake and nothing to do with Alec Wright

[John Wakefield]

I believe this is a fake and nothing to do with Alec Wright

Looks very much so, this comment from Dave Harper an authority on scramble and enduro bikes who worked at Greeves & actually built the engine has been made on the FB thread

"The frame looks a like model 58, first made 69/70, the engine and gearbox numbers are correct, but would have been installed in a model 63 frame,
engine number GPG1/185 fitted with gearbox GBC1930 were built by me on 29/8/72, it was also one of the first batch of twenty assembled with the larger Motoplat with lighting coils. As for the frame Number, all Griffons had a stamped plate attached by rivets, only the Dev or comp shop stamped frames like yours. 24 would suggest 250 challenger, i can only think someone copied this number from another frame. This is nothing like the few sidecars i saw made at the factory "

[John Wakefield]

Further info. The bike is believed to have come from a Dutch rider/Greeves enthusiast by the name Rob Hartendorp who died a few years ago.