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  • 380cc Q.U.B. Griffon Desert (63D)

    My latest project is a 380 QUB Griffon Desert


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    Mostly complete however the exhaust is missing so if anyone has a 380 QUB exhaust I would be grateful.



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    Can anyone tell me whether there is much difference between a MK1 and MK2 QUB exhaust, are they interchangeable. I know the side panel is larger for MK2 so it will be wider at that point but apart from that will a MK1 fit and work on a MK 2 bike?

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    • #3
      My NOS swinging arm has arrived, saves having to try and sort out the existing one which has been altered.

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      • #4
        Thanks to a tip off I managed to get the 1034 Amal carburettor I need. A few fasteners and small bits required, which are all obtainable from Amal. It has the correct 2 stroke angled spray tube as well so has been used on a 2 stroke.

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        • #5
          Correct Golden glow. I have some original Golden glow flake, however it looks decidedly more yellow than the amber golden glow on the photo. Were there different versions of this colour? The colour is probably original as it has the see through Griffon badges and respray jobs don't often have these badges. The flake in the jar is original and much more yellow?

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          • #6
            It could just be the way the light is shining on it, Tony. Photographs can't be relied on to give a true colour representation.

            Ian C.

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            • #7
              True Ian, but it definitely looks more amber than the yellow in the jar.

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              • #8
                I think you may have to have a correct basecoat.

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                • #9
                  I think you are right John, I think it is a mustard colour (English) like this. The glitter would have a translucent carrier. I have sent a sample to https://www.specialistpaints.com/col...ns/metal-flake
                  who did the blue for me so hopefully they will get a good match.
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                  • #10
                    Hi Tony,

                    One other thing that may be worth considering is that if your golden glow metal flake is 'original' (I.e. NOS) it could be possible that it may have oxidised a bit over the years and the colour changed slightly. This is common on original early fifties Gibson Les Paul 'Gold Top' guitars which had a fine 'flake' metallic gold nitrocellulose sprayed over a green base coat and they take on a more 'greenish' tint as a result.

                    Completely agree on the choice of a correct base coat too, with the above in mind.

                    Best of luck with it and hope you get a result.

                    Brian.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks Brian - as long as it does not end up too orange eh!. The amber - golden glow gives such a feeling of warmth and sunshine that I will try and match that as I like it.


                      Some close examples - all 70s style - the helmet is only 179.00 from https://www.bobber-store.com/en/prod...-gold-with-ece

                      It would look good with a Greeves roadster


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                      • #12
                        Hi mate,

                        Couldn't agree more, a real slice of California Sunshine!

                        The helmet is rather stylish too and I know that you're hardly the shy retiring type bud....they do come in flakey blue and egnaro flavours as well, as if you didn't know that already....!! Speaking of egnaro….(!) I must admit that I did think of you when I saw this rather snazzy little number (see pic 1)…can't think why...!!

                        Just for interest, I'll attach a few additional pics to try and illustrate what I was saying earlier about the paint on those original gold top Les Paul's. The first example (1953) is a really clean and unfaded original, probably spent much of it's life stashed away in it's case (rather than being played....!) and the second (1952) shows the oxidation effect I mentioned....notice how much darker it is. Finally the third example (1959) shows more of that effect as well as where the gold top coat has worn through to expose the green undercoat. It's hard to show these things properly in pics for all the obvious reasons, but any excuse to post these glorious instruments for the twangers on here to enjoy! You could buy a LOT of Greeves for what these things are worth.....Lastly, your guitar pic is of a Gibson Firebird style copy....here's a real one from 1965! Interestingly, the Firebird was designed by Ray Dietrich, a car designer and coachbuilder that Gibson brought in as they were trying to compete with Fender for sales at the time. Of course, Leo Fender also took a lot of influence from car designs of the times with his famous Stratocaster too.

                        Looking forward to seeing this one come together mate, it's a beauty and another rare 'un for the UK. Good luck with the rest of the build and hope a pipe turns up soon!

                        Brian.
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                        • #13
                          Nice, Brian/ Tony ............... very nice! Thanks for posting!

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                          • #14
                            Hi Jonah, old mate....lapsed indeed!!!

                            Glorious aren't they...Tony's Desert sled too!! (..and his hat!)

                            Hey Tony, here's another slice of 70's Greeves glitter from my collection for you....I've seen these in yellow on silver flake background too....ask Kenny, as I know he's fitted this style of badge on some of his restorations and may know of said yellow ones! Love that logo/typeface!

                            Twanger.
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                            • #15
                              All that glitters is not gold - it might have red with it

                              This photo is of an original panel and the flake is a similar yellow to what I have in the jar + what looks like bronze flake. Going along with Brian's thought on oxidisation/ fading that could well have started out as red flake. I expect JC knows the answer to that and maybe even the percentage if that is the case.

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                              As to the base coat which is shown in the second photo - this can be seen on my bike on the side of the airbox and the bottom of the tank. In it's past it has been over sprayed with red. Nice too see the base coat as it reinforces the fact that it is a QUB desert Griffon.

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