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    Hello everyone.
    I have just bought an anglian 24TGS305 and being relatively new to British bikes I've got plenty of questions.
    My plan is to strip and restore the bike.
    My first question is how do I separate the frame and swing arm? I plant to get everything stripped and repainted.

  • #2
    Hi Jim, welcome to the forum.

    Removing the swing-arm spindle involves judicious use of a large hammer and a soft(ish) drift.

    I'm sure others will be more specific - there's lots of help on here.
    Colin Sparrow

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    • #3
      Hi Colin,
      Thanks, I didn't want to give it to much so I thought I'd ask first.
      I believe I may be reading your book? A very interesting read.
      Jim

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Colin Sparrow View Post
        Hi Jim, welcome to the forum.

        Removing the swing-arm spindle involves judicious use of a large hammer and a soft(ish) drift.

        I'm sure others will be more specific - there's lots of help on here.
        If you are going to powder coat or stove enamel the frame/swinging arm you need to remove the bushes from swinging arm, the heat will damage the rubber otherwise. OK to leave them in if you are using air drying paint.

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        • #5
          Hello John,
          I had planned to stove enamel, or powder coat the frame for originality and durability. How would I go about removing the bushes for this work?
          Jim

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jim874 View Post
            Hello John,
            I had planned to stove enamel, or powder coat the frame for originality and durability. How would I go about removing the bushes for this work?
            Jim
            With difficulty probably best to get it done by a competent engineer who has a press or suitable extractor. Even then you may destroy one or both of the bushes getting them out.

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            • #7
              If these bushes are easily replaceable/attainable then I'm not to worried about they're distruction.

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              • #8
                Swinging arm bushes

                New ones are available from TDS Classic Motorcycles http://www.tdsclassicmotorcycles.com...en-uk/d36.html
                but they are expensive, £42 or £38 per pair depending upon the size. Apparently Land Rover shackle bush ones will do the job with a bit of modification and another source is Robush see this thread http://www.greeves-riders.org.uk/for...winging+bushes
                Last edited by John Wakefield; 03/06/2017, 08:18 PM.

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                • #9
                  Thank so for that John, sounds like keeping the original bushes is a good goal.

                  Another question; once I finally get the frame to let go of the swingarm what was the original colour for an Anglian frame? Mine is currently blue, but I'm not sure if that's right. Any suggestions?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jim874 View Post
                    Thank so for that John, sounds like keeping the original bushes is a good goal.

                    Another question; once I finally get the frame to let go of the swingarm what was the original colour for an Anglian frame? Mine is currently blue, but I'm not sure if that's right. Any suggestions?
                    If I can throw my tenpenneth in - I don't have any experience yet taking my Scottish to bits and won't presume that your knowledge is a scant as mine regarding Greeves bikes but Ive noticed that there are companies/people advertised in the classic bike mags who offer services. Alternatively, if you join the VMCC as I have then there are small ads from individuals who, again, purport to help (again for a fee lol). As a last resort, and providing that you have a trailer and the readies then its a way I would go for those real difficult jobs that need specialist pieces of kit. But thats just me and I'm someone who would want the job done so I can ride the bike rather than wait around for 9 mths for the right part/bit etc to be machined by a mate of a mate who has a lathe that sometimes works.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jim874 View Post
                      Thank so for that John, sounds like keeping the original bushes is a good goal.

                      Another question; once I finally get the frame to let go of the swingarm what was the original colour for an Anglian frame? Mine is currently blue, but I'm not sure if that's right. Any suggestions?
                      Glad you like the book, Jim. The answer to your question is in there. The 24TGS had a light grey frame. Pages 144 and 147 refer.

                      Regarding my answer to your original query, good squirts of WD40 on the spindle and left overnight wouldn't hurt...
                      Last edited by Colin Sparrow; 05/06/2017, 03:03 PM.
                      Colin Sparrow

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                      • #12
                        Specialists????

                        Please talk to members before entrusting your machine to a chosen specialist. The people who will do a good, cost effective job are well-known, as are "others".

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Brian Catt View Post
                          Please talk to members before entrusting your machine to a chosen specialist. The people who will do a good, cost effective job are well-known, as are "others".
                          I'd like to know these people too Brian for some jobs I might need doing to my Scottish. Any chance of naming them and the 'others' or do I need to roll up one of my trouser legs lol

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                          • #14
                            Anglians

                            I know the square route of sod all, which of course is "sod all" However, your two bushes need to be pushed out with a small hydraulic press. Use a slightly smaller in diameter socket as a press tool. Don't start hitting the side tube with a drift and hammer. Also you would be advised to replace the bushes with new ones. The inner steel tube in the bush will have worn, the rubber will be decades old. Best place for them is the bin.
                            Yes Land Rover Bushes can be used. But... How good are you on a lathe. The complete outside diameter has to be reduced then parted off to the correct length, then it gets tricky. The inner steel tube has to protrude if I remember 1/16 more than the outer (at each end). This tube has to be an exact length (most important) however it is of course set in rubber which moves !!! I have converted a good half dozen pairs of these, it's time consuming to say the least.
                            Can I suggest you do a dry build first before painting.
                            Regards.

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                            • #15
                              Some good advice there.

                              Just to say that swinging arm bushes can be removed with a length of threaded rod M10, washers and an oversize socket. Equally, fitting replacement bushes can be achieved with a good fitters vice. Most times the simple approach yields the best result.

                              A small pointer regarding removing swinging arm spindles. If you need to drift it out get it set up on a good solid base. Don't be afraid to hit it hard. Use a propper hammer. Better to hit it with a sledge, and not pussy foot around with a small ineffective hammer. If you are looking to salvage the spindle use a brass or copper drift.

                              In terms of help and advice I very rarely refuse a request. Paying for a service does not guarantee satisfaction.
                              Last edited by Phil Hyde; 05/06/2017, 10:32 PM. Reason: Spelling and clarification

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