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Old 10/10/2017, 10:52 PM
Soggy Welly Soggy Welly is offline
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It just shows how confusing these matters are!!! When I worked at Cricklewood on the side of the A5, we had a bus lane right outside our premises and sure as eggs are eggs, the gents in blue were sent to enforce the letter of the law. They caught the boss driving the length of the premises from a side road to the gate, and also it appeared as if they nicked a lad on a solo. We had a few cracks with the coppers, as we were waiting for one of our trucks and I casually asked if they could nick motorcycles when the tax disc plainly states "BICYCLE", a device allowed in Bus Lanes. One copper said that motorised devices are not allowed (in some places they now are), but I said that the tax disc has no word as to the fact that it is motorised! It's just a BICYCLE, so I plead my case that no difference can be made......
Indeed so Brian. So these increasingly common bicycles with electric motors, or to put it another way, motor bikes, don't share our burden.....its a mad world
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Old 11/10/2017, 09:52 AM
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Have just found that Speedometers were made compulsory on 1 January 1937.
see https://www.gov.uk/government/public...e-driving-test
paragraph 4
So the 1984 directive means that from 1/4/84 speedos must be marked in MPH and Kilometers
So bottom line is YES you do need a speedo fitted on a Greeves.
I thought this was the case, thanks for researching.
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Old 11/10/2017, 10:28 AM
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Evening gents,

I'm now the proud owner of a 1961 TDS Scottish recently purchased from a fellow club member. My intention is to use it for both trials and green lane-ing so getting it road legal is a priority. I know this issue keeps cropping up, but I'm thoroughly confused about what I need to do. DVLA website is no use at all, so I nipped down to my local MOT test centre for a chat.
I was told an electric horn is required ( apparently small battery operated ones that can be fitted to bicycles are fine) but a bulb horn is no longer acceptable I find this hard to believe when a bulb horn was likely to be fitted originally.
A speedo isn't required - I thought that was an absolute necessity?
Tyres (even if marked 'not for road use' ) are fine as long as the tread block is larger than the gap between the blocks.
I believe that as of April next year, changes in policy mean an MOT won't be needed for the bike, but....

Also, regarding tax exemption, do I need to inform DVLA ? there seems to be no facility to do his on their website.

Finally, if anyone in the Yorkshire / Derbyshire area can recommend good clubs or trials I'd be grateful


Paul

After searching around this is the horn I bought for my Scottish, its waterproof, reasonably compact and loud

https://www.cyclestore.co.uk/buddy_b...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Old 11/10/2017, 12:13 PM
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Or there is this one.... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rainproof-...oAAOSw8gVX6KcC

Worth a punt at that price!
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Old 11/10/2017, 01:07 PM
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Or there is this one.... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rainproof-...oAAOSw8gVX6KcC

Worth a punt at that price!
No - I bought this originally, its rubbish! Sounds like a demented midge. Went straight in the bin...
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Old 11/10/2017, 03:14 PM
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No - I bought this originally, its rubbish! Sounds like a demented midge. Went straight in the bin...
Lol..... you do tend to get what you pay for!
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Old 12/10/2017, 10:14 PM
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Thanks MarkM, not exactly a 'period' looking item, but I'd happily overlook aesthetics for safety.

Paul
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Old 18/10/2017, 11:12 AM
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I bought a bicycle horn from Ebay and it has passed 2 MOTs. However you must have a mono tone sound. My local MOT garage showed me the specification which is quite specific. Such ones are available but it will need a careful search. It cost about 4.00
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Old 24/10/2017, 10:10 PM
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Just thought I would update everyone.

The road tax issue was a doddle. Took v5c to the local post office, and they made the amendments over the counter to change to historic (no road tax) status. they even forwarded the amended v5c to dvla so doesn't even cost me a stamp. So the suggestion that I may have to pay road tax which would then be refunded once the taxation class was changed proved not to be the case. They even issued a receipt stating 'vehicle excise duty paid = 0.00, licence period = 12 months,' handy to have incase Mr Plod is confused about the rules.

On a related note, spoke to Carol Nash re. insurance. Cost of adding the Scottish to my existing classic road bike policy = 44.83, of which 40.00 is an administration fee. Now that takes some beating, 12 months fully comp for 4.83 - even as a tight Yorkshireman I'm happy with that!

Took the Scottish for its first proper test on a local green lane - not much green, but lots of rocks, water filled potholes and adverse cambers - and the bike performed faultlessly. I know I'm preaching to the converted here, but I can't believe a bike this old can be so good.

Paul
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Old 25/10/2017, 03:33 PM
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Wink The choice of the expert.......

Nice one Paul, so whens your first event then? I'll keep an eye on the results pages in TMX..............
I'm riding the Anglian in the Guy Fawkes Trial near Cirencester this weekend, bit too far from you (its 100 miles from me) but should be a good old mud plug.

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