Greeves 1960

[Liam Robinson]

Hi to all
Iam the owner of a 1960 greeves that i have rebuilt over the last couple of years. The bike was originally sold to me as a scottish but i have since found out it is a hawkstone . The bike is now somewhat competitive as i have had some good results but was there may differences betwewn the the two frames other than the footrests and rear shock mounts. When i have finish my membership form i will post some pics of the bike to
Regards
Liam

[Colin Sparrow]

Hi Liam, welcome to the forum. Lots of enthusiastic Greeves knowledge and help on here. You're doing the right thing joining the GRA - plan to make the annual gathering in April if you can.

[Liam Robinson]

Hi Colin
Thank for the reply. I though this would be the best place. I will hopefully make the april gathering but it will be a long drive from buxton in derbyshire. Also the frame number for the bike is 60/3480 if anyone has owned it or knows anything about it

[John Wakefield]

Hi Colin
Thank for the reply. I though this would be the best place. I will hopefully make the april gathering but it will be a long drive from buxton in derbyshire. Also the frame number for the bike is 60/3480 if anyone has owned it or knows anything about it

Hi Liam, not previously on the survivors list so not been on eBay etc in the past few years. It is indeed a 1960 24SCS

[Liam Robinson]

Hi john
I found the bike in a friends shed around 5 years ago. He had bought the bike around 10 years before that. It was sold to him as an anglian as it has got an anglian tank on it so it is a real mix of parts.

[Colin Sparrow]

John's spot on, that number is a 1960 24SCS Hawkstone.

It does appear in the factory dispatch record which is one hurdle surmounted should you decide to register it.

[Liam Robinson]

Hi colin
Its already road registered on a age related plate 550 uyn but it is registered as a greeves 250 no model but more info on the bike would be great. Does it say who it was original dispatched to

[Colin Sparrow]

You're a GRA member, so if you email me on colinsparrow@btinternet.com I can let you have the info for free.

I can't PM you on here until you're upgraded.

[AndyB]

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Hi to all
Iam the owner of a 1960 greeves that i have rebuilt over the last couple of years. The bike was originally sold to me as a scottish but i have since found out it is a hawkstone . The bike is now somewhat competitive as i have had some good results but was there may differences betwewn the the two frames other than the footrests and rear shock mounts. When i have finish my membership form i will post some pics of the bike to
Regards
Liam

Hi Liam,
You will need to send me that form!
Best regards
AndyB
(Membership Secretary)

[Liam Robinson]

Hi Andrew
Form emailed and subs sent pics to follow
Regards
Liam

[AndyB]

Thanks Liam,

All OK!

AndyB

[Liam Robinson]

Hi
Thanks to every1 for the information on the bike its interesting to see that the bike originally sold to Lawton and Wilson in Southampton so the bike has traveled far. Is it common for scramblers and trials frame to get mixed up and does it really matter? Ive add a photo of the bike as my avatar as i cannot add photos yet
Regards
Liam

[Colin Sparrow]

All sorts of weird and wonderful things seem to happen to Greeves frames over the years; let's face it many of them have been around for fifty years or so and they're easy to work on.

It depends how interested you are in originality, there are differences between the frames of the various model, some greater than others. I've seen trials bikes which have become roadsters and vice versa. It doesn't really matter, one type is not substantially more valuable than another thank goodness.

Apart from racers though, they do tend to be worth more and there's a number of fakes about. Buyer beware!

What is an absolute no-no is altering, obscuring or removing frame numbers. Dreaming up a frame number from nowhere can make obtaining an age-related number difficult and recovering an original number impossible. Spare a thought for the future owner who might want to bring the bike back to original specification. In the long run we're all only custodians.

[Liam Robinson]

Hi colin
Not to bothered about originality as the bikes a real mix of parts. Barrel from a tgs, full width bhc hubs, norton fork etc. I just built it as i liked or could get parts i was just intrested in the framed differences but as i love the bike so it doesnt really matter
Regards
Liam

[MarkM]

All sorts of weird and wonderful things seem to happen to Greeves frames over the years; let's face it many of them have been around for fifty years or so and they're easy to work on.

It depends how interested you are in originality, there are differences between the frames of the various model, some greater than others. I've seen trials bikes which have become roadsters and vice versa. It doesn't really matter, one type is not substantially more valuable than another thank goodness.

Apart from racers though, they do tend to be worth more and there's a number of fakes about. Buyer beware!

What is an absolute no-no is altering, obscuring or removing frame numbers. Dreaming up a frame number from nowhere can make obtaining an age-related number difficult and recovering an original number impossible. Spare a thought for the future owner who might want to bring the bike back to original specification. In the long run we're all only custodians.

Maybe we need to think of a generic term for a Greeves constructed from many different sources - Grybrid, Grixup, Grallsorts. etc